Daily Stuff 3-24-18 Komoeditsi

Featured photo by Ken Gagne. Herbs at 11. Sewing at 3.

The little hind-dunes ponds and lakes this morning were all rain-drop speckled. The sky was grey and rather blank from the rain but bright enough that trees with shiny leaves like the hollies and myrtles were all silvery. It’s cold, though. 37F is not a normal March temperature! The wind is at 6mph, and on the beaches and exposed spots into the teens. Hopefully, the worst of this weather is past, since the barometer is climbing again.

Yesterday was a tired day. I took a nap. Tempus took a nap. He also made bread and hard-boiled eggs for the Circle, while I sorted through and set up the stuff for the Circle itself. We were ready in plenty of time, at least.

We had a fun ritual. The Wheel has Turned!

Afterwards we cleaned up a bit and then headed home. Tempus isn’t feeling so hot and hasn’t been for a couple of days. He slept hard last night.

We were kinda up and down this morning. Some alarm (I don’t even know which….) went off around 8am and then Tempus was up and down because a paper went astray yesterday and he was trying to sort out what to do with it. We got here a few minutes early this morning and had coffee, leftover lemon-blueberry muffins (Don’t lose that recipe, Kristie!) and eggs for breakfast. …and we’ve got another ceiling leak. <sigh>

So Herbs this morning didn’t have anyone, but Sewing is from 3-5pm today. …and I’ve got eggs coming and maple syrup and honey, and a batch of shells and….

A picture from 3/3/15 by Ken Gagne of the Yaquina Bay Bridge.

030315 Ken Gagne Yaquina

motif plant flower dandelion herb

Dandelions, Taraxacum are today’s plant. The new leaves are a yummy addition to spring salads. The dried and ground roots make a coffee substitute and the flowers make an excellent wine. In our area don’t mistake hawkweed or cat’s paw for them, both are very not-good-for-the-tummy. True dandelions have no fur on the leaves which are deeply “toothed”, hence the name dant-de-lion, tooth of the lion. – Masculine, Jupiter Air, Hecate– Blow the seed head and the seeds left are the years left in your life.dandelionBlow the seed head 3 times and the number of seeds left are the hour. To send a message blow the seed head in the direction of the person and visualize your message. Bury a dried root by the corner of your house to bring favorable winds. Dried flower/leaves are used for energy, calling spirits  and health. More here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandelion

magick motif slav Kolovrat RodnoverKomoeditsi – Suhii (March) 24 – This day is a very ancient Pagan holiday. This day we honor the great Bear God (Meveshii Bog) and make sacrifices to the Great God of Honey. (Komoed: “Bear” in Old Russian )

feast 0324 Brittania 1910 pennyToday’s Feast is in honor of Brittania, the personification of the British Isles. She wasn’t worshiped as a goddess as far as anyone can prove, but she has become one over time, much as Marianne of France, or our personification of Liberty.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittania

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Love & Light,
Anja

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Today’s Astro & Calendar

Waxing Moon Magick – The waxing moon is for constructive magick, such as love, wealth, success, courage, friendship, luck or healthy, protection, divination. Any working that needs extra power, such as help finding a new job or healings for serious conditions, can be done now. Also, love, knowledge, legal undertakings, money and dreams. Phase ends at the Tide Change on 3/31 at 5:37am. Waxing Crescent – Keywords for the Crescent phase are: expansion, growth, struggle, opportunity. It is the time in a cycle that you gather the wisdom learned in the new phase and communicate your intention to move forward. Light a candle. Write or read an affirmation. LISTEN & ABSORB. Commit to your goal. God/dess aspect: Maiden/Youth, energy and enthusiasm – Associated God/dess: Artemis & Apollo, Mayet/Djehuti, Freya/Frey. Phase ends at the Quarter on 3/24 at 8:35am. Waxing Gibbous Moon – From seven to fourteen days after the new moon. For spells that need concentrated work over a ¼ moon cycle this is the best time for constructive workings. Aim to do the last working on the day of the Full moon, before the turn. Keywords for the Gibbous phase are: analyze, prepare, trust. It is the time in a cycle to process the results of the actions taken during the First Quarter. During this phase you are gathering information. Give up making judgments; it will only lead to worry. Your knowledge is incomplete. Laugh. Analyze and filter. LOOK WITHIN. God/dess aspect: Maiden/Youth, but in the uncommitted phase, the Warriors – Associated God/desses: Dion, Dionysius, Venus, Thor. Phase ends at the Full on 3/29 at 5:37pm. 

The sprawling Coma Star Cluster, with north up. The bright star at lower right is Denebola. On the opposite side of the cluster is Cor Caroli (Alpha Canum Venaticorum). North here is up; mentally turn this view about 45° counterclockwise to match its orientation in the east after dark.
First-quarter Moon (exact at 11:35 a.m. EDT). This evening the Moon shines high above Orion, in the feet of Gemini below Castor and Pollux.
Mercury and Venus on March 14th over a skyline in Rome, photographed by Gianluca Masi with a long lens; the two planets were only 4.0° apart. Every day Mercury moves farther to the lower right from its position here, and it’s fading too.  “As soon as the sky darkened, minutes after sunset, Venus was an obvious sight, but spotting Mercury was an harder task, initially;” writes Masi. “Once the sky was dark enough, both planets were so obvious that they could be seen even by casual stargazers. A couple of people in the same place as me noticed both of them with no help.”
Mars and Saturn, together in Sagittarius, rise around 3 a.m. daylight-saving time. At the beginning of dawn they’re the brightest points moderately low in the south-southeast, above the fainter Sagittarius Teapot. They’re equally bright at magnitude +0.5, but Mars is redder. Far to their right at that time is Antares, and farther right is bright Jupiter. Mars continues drawing closer to Saturn as seen from Earth’s moving point of view. They appear 8½° apart on the morning of March 17th and 5° apart by the 24th. They’ll pass each other by 1.3° on April 2nd.

Old Farmer’s Almanac Sky Map for March 2018 – https://www.almanac.com/sites/default/files/skymap_march2018.pdf
Goddess Month of Columbina runs from 3/20 – 4/17
Celtic Tree Month of Fearn/Alder, Mar 18 – Apr 14
Runic half-month of Berkana/ Beorc, 3/14-29 Half-month ruled by the goddess of the birch tree; a time of purification for rebirth and new beginnings. 

Sun in Aries
Moon in Gemini enters Cancer at 1:53am.
Waxing Quarter at 8:35am.
Mercury (4/15), Jupiter (7/10) Retrograde
Color – Indigo

Planting 3/24-25

©2018 M. Bartlett, Some parts separately copyright

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Celtic Tree Month of Fearn/Alder, Mar 18 – Apr 14. Fern (FAIR-n) Alder – The common alder (Alnus glutinosa (L.) Gaertner) is common along lowland rivers, where it grows with aspens, poplars, and willows. Like willows, alders sprout from stumps. This allows them to regenerate after heavy flooding. In protect sites they may grow to 20 m (65 feet) tall. Their leaves are more blunt-tipped than most North American alders, which look more like the grey alder (A. incana (L.) Moench). This species is more common in the mountains of Europe, and is not restricted to moist soils. Like ashes, European alders are not widely cultivated in North American (they are often sold as black alders), but several native species are. Alder wood is said to resist rotting when it is wet, and was the wood of choice for pilings in many regions. Alders are members of the Birch family (Betulaceae).

Fearn – Alder Ogam letter correspondences
Month: January
Color: Crimson
Class: Chieftain
Letter: F, V
Meaning: Help in making choices; spiritual guidance and protection.

Ogam letter correspondences to study this month – Ailim – Silver Fir
Month: None
Color: Light Blue
Class: Shrub
Letter: A
Meaning: Learning from past mistakes; Take care in choices.

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Waves tide

Tides for Alsea Bay

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Day        High      Tide  Height   Sunrise    Moon  Time      % Moon
~            /Low      Time    Feet     Sunset                                    Visible
Sa  24     High   5:57 AM     7.6   7:12 AM     Set  2:33 AM      40
~    24      Low   1:14 PM     0.4   7:34 PM    Rise 12:10 PM
~    24     High   7:52 PM     5.8

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Affirmation/Thought for the Day – Think positive. If you fall in the creek, check your pockets for fish.

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Newsletter Journal PromptJournal Prompt – Favorites – What is your favorite kind of car? Explain why you think cars are so important to Americans.

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Quotes  

~  When you are face to face with a difficulty, you are up against a discovery. – William Thomson (Lord Kelvin)
~  Where your attention goes, your energy flows. What you appreciate, appreciates. – Meg Lawton
~  Why have I been chasing happiness my whole life when bliss was here the entire time? – Elizabeth Gilbert
~  You can’t move forward until you let go of where you are. – Unknown.

Spanning the winter’s cold gulf with an arch,
Over it, rampant, rides in the March. – Constance Fenimore Woolson (1840–94)

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Magick – The originality of Jesus – http://www.bandoli.no/nooriginaljesus.htm

Who was the Son of the highest God, and the biggest healer in Antiquity?  He healed the sick and even raised the dead.  Hear and behold: former paralysed walked again, the blind could miraculously see again, and the deaf could listen and the mute speak after the Master’s gentle touch!  But he did not only heal the body, he also healed the soul.  They called him Saviour and Redeemer, and he healed both rich and poor, men and women, young and old, slaves and free men, friends and enemies.  In one occasion a paralysed man was brough to him in his bed, and took his bed and left walking after the Saviour had touched him.  What was this Saviour’s name?

. . . Asklepios.

Who was born by a mortal virgin mother and had a divine Father, and was known as the “Saviour of the world”?  Before he was born his parents wandered to a bigger town, and prophets had foretold his birth and that he would be a king.  This instigated a search for the infant Saviour by a leading figure who wanted to kill him.  After growing up the Son of God was shown all the kingdoms of the world from a high mountain.  He also walked on water and when he met his end his mother and his favorite disciple stood by him.  He then tells his mother: “Do not cry, I’m going to heaven”.  When he dies he utter: “It is finished” and the earth trembles and darkness cover the land.  Then he ascended to
heaven, and his greatest achievement was to conquer death.

His name was of course . . . Hercules.

We all of course know the Redeemer who was no figure of pagan Greek polytheism.  He was the true Saviour who wanted to help and save the sinful humans, by sacrificing himself.  But he was willing to do this, out of love, pity and compassion for the humans.

His name: . . . Prometheus.

Now, who was the real Son of God, born by a mortal virgin mother, and often presented as the venerated newborn infant, or depicted riding a donkey?  He healed the sick and did numerous wonders, among those making fine wine from plain water.  He was killed but resurrected from the dead and became immortal.  The followers of this God often ate a holy meal in a kind of sacramental union with the deity to achieve immortality after their death.  One of this god’s finest achievements was his death, his sacrifice, which delivers the whole human kind.

The God was the very popular Dionysos.

Who is the “Light of the World”, the One, the God who defeated death?  Born of a virgin mother, considered the first true King by the people.  Who rose from the grave and ascended to heaven.  He defeated death, and must be considered the single true God.

Of course the Egyptian Osiris!

Now, the real God often called the “Light of the world”, “The good shepherd”, “The lamb” and is “. . . the way, the truth, and the life”.  Identified with a cross.  Who could that be?

Horus, (the son of Osiris).

The original “Light of the world” was the mediator between God and man and was born on the 25th of December.  Local shepherds witnessed his birth and gave him gifts.  He had 12 disciples, and when his work was done on earth he gathered together to a last supper, and then ascended to heaven.  At doomsday he will return to pass judgment on both the living and the dead.  The righteous will go to heaven and the sinful will be killed in a giant fire.  Sunday is his holyday, and this religion gave us the seven days of the week.  His followers called each other “brothers” and their leaders “fathers”.  They practiced baptism and established a sacred meal ritual, where flesh and blood was symbolically consumed by initiates.  Above earth was heaven, and below the dark hell with demons and the sinners.

The ‘Light of the World’ is of course the sungod Mithra.

Wise men were led to his birth by a star, and his conception was miraculous.  After his birth the ruler in the area wanted him dead and started a hunt for the child.  But his parents were warned by a heavenly messenger who told them to escape over the river with the holy child.  Here, he was met by shepherds.  The boy grew up and did many great deeds, and was the mediator between God and man.

His name: Krishna.

Who then, was the God whose mother was told by an angel that she would give birth to a holy child destined to be a Saviour?  Even as a child he instructed the priests in the temple in religious matters, while his parents were looking for him.  He started his religious career when he was ca 30 years of age, and surrounded himself with 12 disciples.  One of the disciples is his favorite. Another is a traitor.  He and his disciples abstain from wealth and travel around talking in parables and metaphors.  This God called himself “Son of Man” and was referred to as “Prophet”, “Master” and “Lord”.  He did many great wonders and healed the sick, blind could see again and deaf hear. He also walked on water.  When one of his disciples tried to do the same, he started to sink – his faith was not strong enough.

We are here obviously talking about Buddha.

Our Saviour cannot be mistaken for any other.  He performed countless miracles on earth, miracles well attested to by bystanders.  He healed the sick and the crippled, restored sight to the blind, cast out demons, and even raised the dead!  His birth was of a virgin, foretold by an angel.  While still a child, he exhibited extraordinary knowledge of religious scripture.  He reformed the corrupt and worldly religions of his day.  He was crucified, rose from the tomb and appeared to his disciples to prove to them his power over death, after which he ascended to Heaven to sit at the right hand of the Father.  He was known as “the Son of God!” His message is of love and compassion.

We give you: Apollonius of Tyana

And there is of course the God-man, the prophet, the founder of a great monotheistic religion that still exist today.  He preached that there was only one true God, and his teachings focused on the eternal fight between good and evil.  The teachings include the idea of the Saviour will wake the dead and pass judgment on all.  The righteous ones goes to Paradise and the sinful straight to a burning Hell.  The very word of Paradise stems from this religion.  This semigod started his career in his early thirties, and had a following of disciples.  As a band of monks they wandered around, preaching their religion.  He was eventually killed and sent to heaven.

And he was the Persian Zarathustra.

The problem for Jesus is that all these deities are much older than him.  You don’t have to be very bright to see where the authors of the Gospels got their “devine inspiration” when they created the Jewish version of the popular God-Man/ World-Saviour of Antiquity.

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Could it not be that Jesus is acknowledged as Messiah because he fits the pattern? Don’t these archetypal criteria sit hardwired in our minds, waiting for someone to come along and meet them? Why denigrate?  Why not recognize these motifs as the earmarks of divinity?  And even if one is not a believer, is it really necessary to try to destroy beliefs that others hold sacred? The last paragraph of this writing sounds as smug and judgmental as the words of any religious extremist of any ilk.

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Gillian:

Mithra is thought to be the source of inspiration for the Jesus story in the four gospels. This may have been under the supervision of Bishop Irenaeus as the Mithra religion was popular among the Roman soldiers. This was sometime around 290-325 CE.

Christians of the first three centuries did not believe in a historical Jesus nor did the Apostle Paul.

What is called orthodox Christianity is a patriarchal religion intended to keep the masses in subjection.

Early believers were first called Christians. They were later (after 325 CE) referred to as Gnostics. That was subsequently equated with heresy.

I find nothing smug in the last paragraph. It’s a statement of fact. These other God-men stories preceded the Jesus stories by centuries.

Galileo’s comment is appropriate: “I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.”

Hypatia of Alexandria’s comment is still appropriate:  “All formal dogmatic religions, are fallacious, and never should be accepted by self-respecting persons as final.”

Presenting myth and legend as historical events was a common practice among the ancients. Hence ancient writings are full of these kind of documents that subsequently became the basis for religion. Since such stories were not subject to any proof, it was elevated to the level of mystery.

Today it is sufficient to see that life itself is a mystery as is the mystery of existence. If you want a theology for this, consider The Mystery of Existence as God.

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Thank you David for your insights and references!  Respectfully Gillian, I have come to believe that sometimes what others hold sacred, can be their greatest obstacle.  When it comes to religious beliefs, nothing could be truer.  The Mystery is alive within us, and so are the avatars we emulate.  As I have heard it said, “The Truth is so, and then it is so what.”  You move deeper into the moment.  Historically, having reached an insight, we seem to prefer to move deeper into being right.

John

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Hi David.

I’ll answer in line.

Mithra is thought to be the source of inspiration for the Jesus story in the four gospels. This may have been under the supervision of Bishop Irenaeus as the Mithra religion was popular among the Roman soldiers. This was sometime around 290-325 CE.

–Yes. Mithraism was one of several mystery religions which abounded in Rome. The worship of Isis was another one. She has been seen, amongst other goddesses, as the model for the Virgin Mary.

Christians of the first three centuries did not believe in a historical Jesus nor did the Apostle Paul.

–That’s an interesting assertion.  I’d love to see it supported.  It would sure make Paul look pretty cynical.

What is called orthodox Christianity is a patriarchal religion intended to keep the masses in subjection.

–I’m sure that can be said about Christianity once it was adopted by Rome. Apparently the structure of Bishop – Priest -Deacon was pretty attractive and the Judaic moral system had been appealing to Romans for some time before. But according to Eileen Pagels, orthodox Christianity had to become authoritative in order to close ranks and withstand the competition afforded by other mystery religions, persecution from the government , and the resentment of rank-and-file Romans.

Early believers were first called Christians. They were later (after 325 CE) referred to as Gnostics. That was subsequently equated with heresy.
–The earliest believers identified as Jews. The Gnostics differed from the Orthodox, amongst other ways, in that theirs was a more introspective faith. Pagels book on the Gospel of Thomas points out that that Gospel of Thomas sends the faithful inward, while the Gospel of John maintains that God is without. Having no need for a hierarchy, the Gnostics were seen as loose cannons and thus dangerous to the survival of the faith.

I find nothing smug in the last paragraph. It’s a statement of fact. These other God-men stories preceded the Jesus stories by centuries.
–“You don’t have to be very bright to see where the authors of the Gospels got their “devine inspiration” when they created the Jewish version of the popular God-Man/ World-Saviour of Antiquity.”
I’m sorry. The statement does indeed sound smug to me. It reads as if a bunch of guys got togther with the express purpose of creating a false god.  It imports a cynicism which I find very hard to believe was there. Whether Jesus existed or not, the story began on a grassroots level.  There was something within the story that fostered the collective unconscious. That it was institutionalized later for the purposes of keeping the populus in line is immaterial when facing the archetypal nature of this figure. The fact that archetypal heroes have always been with us does not negate the power of any of their stories. The listing of previous archetypal figures who embody parts of this culmination only underscores the power of this figure. I do not disagree that the myth (not in the sense of a lie but of a transcendent truth) has been corrupted and perverted and imbued with a historicity which saps it of its spiritual strength. But the fact remains that this story has been a source of comfort for millions of people for two millenium. I may not believe in its literal factuality, but I take no pleasure in destroying the faith of others.

Galileo’s comment is appropriate: “I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.”
–Agreed. It blows me away when I read people who have and use all of these qualities and still burn with a deep faith. I feel then that I have missed something very important.

Hypatia of Alexandria’s comment is still appropriate:  “All formal dogmatic religions, are fallacious, and never should be accepted by self-respecting persons as final.”
–Definitely. Atheism included.

Presenting myth and legend as historical events was a common practice among the ancients. Hence ancient writings are full of these kind of documents that subsequently became the basis for religion. Since such stories were not subject to any proof, it was elevated to the level of mystery.
–Yes indeed. It still is. We’ve done the same thing to John F. Kennedy, Bruce Lee, Elvis Presley, Jim Morrison, Tupac Shakur…

Today it is sufficient to see that life itself is a mystery as is the mystery of existence. If you want a theology for this, consider The Mystery of Existence as God.
–Yes indeed. Contemplation upon the mystery of being can be found in Jesus’ teachings and the Buddha’s and the Quran and the Bhagavad Gita and in the caves of Lascaux and on Ayers Rock. All faiths return to this at the core. And I see no need to negate any one of them.
God(ess) Bless
Gillian

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Dear David,

I wrote that last note amidst a pile of papers and students interrupting me to ask advice on their Iliad projects, and I forgot to address a point.

You said:

“Mithra is thought to be the source of inspiration for the Jesus story in the four gospels. This may have been under the supervision of Bishop Irenaeus as the Mithra religion was popular among the Roman soldiers. This was sometime around 290-325 CE.”

It’s pretty much agreed that the Gospels were written around 50 – 100 years after the time of the crucifixion. They were well established by the time of Bishop Irnaeus. As a matter of fact, 325 is the date of the first Nicean Council in which much of what became Orthodox Christianity was codified.

It would not be surprising that much of what was attributed to Mithra would become attached to Jesus, but not so much by the organized church but by the power of the folk process. There also seems to be much of Buddhist thought in Jesus’ words, and given that there would have been trade with that part of Asia for some time, it’s not all that surprising.

Namaste,
Gillian

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Gillian:

You commented:

Christians of the first three centuries did not believe in a historical Jesus nor did the Apostle Paul.

–That’s an interesting assertion.  I’d love to see it supported.  It would sure make Paul look pretty cynical.

Albert Schweitzer’s book, “The Quest for the Historical Jesus” of some years ago. A more recent book, mentioned here by Two Spirit Sadaaya entitled “The Laughing Jesus” by Timothy Freke & Peter Gandy has a good historical look at both the Old and New Testaments and the Qu’ran as well. It has lots of references.

Paul only looks cynical because of all the additions that have been added to his letters to make it appear he believed in a historical Jesus and that he supported a patriarchic religion.

–The earliest believers identified as Jews. The Gnostics differed from the Orthodox, amongst other ways, in that theirs was a more introspective faith. Pagels book on the Gospel of Thomas points out that that Gospel of Thomas sends the faithful inward, while the Gospel of John maintains that God is without. Having no need for a hierarchy, the Gnostics were seen as loose cannons and thus dangerous to the survival of the faith.

The orthodox attempted to make Jesus into a historical figure. An “introspective faith” is what gnosis is about. It is a awakening, a changing of one’s perspective, about how reality is perceived. That incidentally is the basis of quantum physics.

The gospel of John doesn’t maintain that God is without. Jesus said, “The Father and I are one.” (John 10:30) The gospel of John also records that: “Jesus answered, “Is it not written in your law, “I said, you are gods’?” (John 10:34) According to these verses, God is within and we are that god. Or as I prefer, we are that “Mystery of Existence.”

The stores of the God-men are not devoid of meaning. The point is, don’t claim that Jesus was the only one of these God-men that actually had an historical existence.

The first Christians, whether Jews or whatever, used the story of Jesus representing the death as symbolic of dying from the contemporary world view and awakening (resurrecting) with a new perspective on the contemporary world view.

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I find this a very interesting subject.  I call it the myth of Jesus.  I do believe in Jesus, mainly because I want to, and that is a good enough reason for me.

But, I was amazed when I read the “Enchiridon”, a Roman Army Field Manual.  This book contains the philosopy of Epictetus.  What I often wonder is did the Gospels copy the Enchiridon, or did the Enchiridon copy the Gospels as in regard to the teachings of Jesus.

Maybe, just maybe the teachings of Jesus was not from Jesus at all, maybe he was just teaching universal truths that have always existed.

My favorite Epictetus quote does relate to Androgynes and the Transgender Communities when he said; “What concerns me is not the way things are, but rather the way people think things are.”

Catherine – “As you believe, so shall it be”

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Christians of the first three centuries did not believe in a historical Jesus nor did the Apostle Paul.

–That’s an interesting assertion. I’d love to see it supported. It would sure make Paul look pretty cynical.

The only comment or observation I can provide here: When Paul converted, he began preaching almost immediately. It’s almost as if he had a pre conceived idea of what he was going to preach (although he had been persecuting Christians).  He could not have learned or memorized the three years of preaching that Jesus did in a matter of days, much less when he was supposedly temporarily blind immediately after he converted and could not have read whatever record existed of his sayings.  He apparently did not have the humility, or the interest, to listen to the teachings of the historical Jesus, and therefore came up with his own teachings (like his ‘faith will justify you’, versus Jesus’ ‘you must be fruitful: a tree that bears no fruits will be cut off’). This, to me, is a sign that this historical Jesus figure did not matter to him, at least not enough to care about what he actually taught. It’s not hard to imagine that many original Christians, after the death of Jesus, did not necessarily believe in the LITERAL resurrection but saw it as a symbol, or even in his literal existence.  I mean, the claims such as miracles and healings would seem unbelievable to someone today.  Most of these believers in the Christ as a mythical figure probably evolved into Gnostics.

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motif Silliness SmilieSilliness – Psychiatrist and Psychologist – What is the difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist?
If you say to a psychiatrist “I hate my mother,” he will ask “Why do you say that?” while a psychologist will say “Thank you for sharing that with us.”

 

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